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Post by -Mazer on Mon Jul 13, 2015 11:57 pm

@ Koenig

A feminazi claims Minions is the most sexist kids movie of 2015 and is very insulted it was even made

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Post by LegendX48 on Mon Jul 13, 2015 11:59 pm

Koenig wrote:What is that wall of text about, Mazer?  Even at a glance it seems fishy.
a mother taking a children's movie about yellow twinkie creatures far too seriously
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Re: Gen Chat VI: R.I.P. Satoru Iwata

Post by Koenig on Tue Jul 14, 2015 12:00 am

-Mazer wrote:@ Koenig

A feminazi claims Minions is the most sexist kids movie of 2015 and is very insulted it was even made
...Shouldn't people like that be sectioned under the mental health act? (UK only)
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Post by Koenig on Tue Jul 14, 2015 12:02 am

*Crams nose full of tissue paper and vasaline *

I am so stopped up from my allergies I can't even breath through my nose despite the fact it is all clear mucus. Fuck Allergies.

I think I am going to call it a night early, sorry mates.
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Re: Gen Chat VI: R.I.P. Satoru Iwata

Post by xXJus10Xx on Tue Jul 14, 2015 12:02 am

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Spoiler:
Yesterday, when my three daughters and I went to see “Minions,” two lingering questions I’ve had– are they really all male and if so, how did they come into being– were answered.

minions-poster-1

So, yes, now I know: the minions are all boys. When I’ve complained in the past about the utter lack of female minions, commenters responded that they’re “genderless.” In kidworld, where everything from robots to cars to planes are assigned a gender, I doubted this was the case, but I watched the new movie carefully just in case I was mistaken, that the minions were an exception to this rule. Guess what? Not only does every minion mentioned have a male name, but they are also repeatedly referred to as boys with lines delivered like: “Growing boy creatures need their strength” or “Good luck in there, boys!” or “Buckle up, boys!” So, please don’t waste your time emailing me that a 6 year old kid won’t notice what gender these creatures are.

Now, for question #2. The movie opens with a scene where the minions seem to evolve from amoeba like creatures that come out of the sea. Clearly, no female is involved in their reproduction. A male narrator describes their creation story and also how and why minions came to be: to serve an evil master. As evolution continues on the screen, we hear the narrator introduce “man.” We then see a caveman, followed by a series of other male leaders including a pharaoh and Napoleon. Around this point in the movie one of the minions, I think it was Bob, emerges from the sea wearing a pair of starfish on his chest in the first of several breast/ female jokes. Another minion sees Bob and quips: “He’s an idiot.”

Right after the narrator assures us this is going to be the same old, same old narrative we always see where one male saves the world, announcing: “One minion had a plan and his name was Kevin” I turned to my oldest daughter, who is 11. I told her I had to take a bathroom break and to watch for any female character who speaks, as none had come into the movie yet at all. My daughter responded, “Mama, the villain is a girl.” She was referring to Scarlet Overkill who she was familiar with from the many, many previews we saw of the movie. I, too, had high hopes for Scarlett even though as the only main female character in the movie, I was pretty sure she would be limited by the narrative to a Minority Feisty role.

For those who aren’t familiar with Reel Girl, Minority Feisty is the term I’ve assigned female characters in children’s movies. These females are “strong” and therefore often referred to as “feisty” by reviewers. “Feisty” is a sexist adjective. A reviewer would not label a male character, such as Superman “feisty.” “Feisty” refers to someone who isn’t really strong but plays at being strong. “Feisty” isn’t a real threat to any power structure. The Minority Feisty can refer to one or more female characters in a movie, the point being that though there can be more than one, females are shown as a minority population. The Minority Feisty represents our slow, slow, slow progress from the Smurfette Principle, a term coined by feminist writer Katha Pollitt. The Minority Feisty serves to pacify parents, so we can sigh in relief and say to ourselves: “There’s a strong female or two, this movie is feminist!” And thus, we’re all supposed to ignore and forget that girls– half of the kid population– are reduced to a tiny minority in the movie and almost never represent the protagonist.

Scarlet Overkill is one of the WORST EVER representations of the Minority Feisty. The male narrator introduces her at Villain Con: “There’s a new bad man in town and that man is a woman.” Then Scarlet is on the stage in her red dress and stilettos, saying: “Hey, a girl’s got to make a living.” She is the keynote speaker at the conference, defined as “the world’s first female supervillain.” Before Overkill came to town, she tells us, it was believed that “a woman could never rob a bank as well as a man.” Overkill proves them wrong, so YAY feminism, right? Let me remind you that the minions represent a fantasy world where little, yellow pill shaped creatures have sprouted from the sea. Why, why, why in “Minions,” and most other children’s movies, do we recycle sexism into so many stories that are otherwise imaginative and creative, because “that’s just the way it is in the real world?” Why does Scarlett Overkill have to be represented as an exception to her gender? Why can’t we show children a fantasy world where gender equality exists?  “Minions” does the opposite, reproducing and in fact, managing to exaggerate sexism so that females have hardly any place or representation in the world at all.

You wouldn’t think it possible, but things get even worse for sexism and Overkill’s character. She wants the minions to steal the crown for her because she wants to be a princess– not a queen!– “because everyone loves princesses.” Is any kid watching this movie going to get a message of female empowerment from this single, sexist character?

I’m appalled and disgusted that movies like “Minions” are allowed to be made in 2015 and shown to little kids, teaching a new generation to expect and accept a world where girls go missing. If you think I’m overreacting, imagine the reverse: A movie about three female characters– Kara, Stella, and Becky, who lead an all female tribe. They defeat the first male super villain ever, while pursued in a world populated by hundreds of female villains, groups of all female police officers, troops of all female guards, and visit English pubs where almost everyone– except for the pink suited king– is also female. Would you notice the sexism? Would your kids? The fact that the lack of females in children’s movies– from protagonists to crowd scenes, from heroes to villains– isn’t glaringly obvious to us and our children shows how sexist the world is. In the fantasy world, anything is possible, even gender equality. If we can’t even imagine it, we can’t create it. Unfortunately, “Minions” teaches kids, one more time, that females don’t matter much at all.
This lady's fucking insane.
She make feminists look bad.
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Re: Gen Chat VI: R.I.P. Satoru Iwata

Post by -Mazer on Tue Jul 14, 2015 12:10 am

Koenig wrote:
-Mazer wrote:@ Koenig

A feminazi claims Minions is the most sexist kids movie of 2015 and is very insulted it was even made
...Shouldn't people like that be sectioned under the mental health act? (UK only)

She is furious that the minions are all male. That there is a moment were a minion puts on 2 starfish like a bikini top and the narrator calls him an idiot which translates to her that they are saying women are idiots or being a woman is an idiot.

She doesn't like that the female villain is not "villain" enough or a true "Female" role...

She practically considers Fury Road to be the 2nd coming of jesus because it's female lead, loves Inside Out stictly because the focus on females (she gushes about Joy and Sadness, makes sure ot mention Disgust is a woman also and ignores Anger and Fear)...

I mean this woman is a piece of work

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Post by -Mazer on Tue Jul 14, 2015 12:18 am

Also, the Pixar animated Short "Lava" Is also very sexist.

http://amptoons.com/blog/2015/07/13/minions-may-beat-lava-for-most-sexist-kids-movie-of-the-year/

I was really put off by “Lava.” I saw it with my partner and with a queer trans friend, both of whom liked it a lot, but I just kept thinking “that’s it? That’s the plot? Boy wants girl, boy gets girl? Ugh.”

I feel that way about an awful lot of recent Pixar shorts. The guy who folds paper airplanes to the point of getting himself (ambiguously?) fired from his job because otherwise the woman he glimpsed from afar on the train one time won’t know he likes her; the masculine-coded umbrella who spots a feminine-coded umbrella from afar and tries to get close to her. I’ve always preferred the ones like Day & Night or La Luna. They seem to have more meaty concepts than the boy-meets-girl shorts.

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Post by xXJus10Xx on Tue Jul 14, 2015 1:05 am

^People with grudges shouldn't be Feminists.

She sounds like she has it out for Men in general.
Or relationships with a Man and Woman.
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Post by LegendX48 on Tue Jul 14, 2015 1:18 am

Paperman is NOT Pixar. That guy can go shove it.

Anywho, since it was ignored in the anime thread, I'll ask here. Why does anime break the first rule of writing all of the time? That rule being "Show, don't tell," instead it does the opposite.

At the very least it is a trend I've noticed with the shows I've seen
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Post by xXJus10Xx on Tue Jul 14, 2015 1:28 am

LegendX48 wrote:Why does anime break the first rule of writing all of the time? That rule being "Show, don't tell," instead it does the opposite.

At the very least it is a trend I've noticed with the shows I've seen
Examples?
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Post by LegendX48 on Tue Jul 14, 2015 1:35 am

xXJus10Xx wrote:
LegendX48 wrote:Why does anime break the first rule of writing all of the time? That rule being "Show, don't tell," instead it does the opposite.

At the very least it is a trend I've noticed with the shows I've seen
Examples?
Since it's fresh on my mind, Serial Experiments: Lain. Granted, yeah, there were some moments late into the series where they didn't break that rule, there was an awful lot of moments it was basically just shoving information down your throat by literally telling you. There's one episode around halfway through the series that's just a full on info dump that doesn't even become relevant until the final two episodes.

edit: speaking of info dumps, Ergo Proxy has a MASSIVE, MASSIVE info dump on the final episode
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Post by Koenig on Tue Jul 14, 2015 8:45 am

Anime in general tends to be a bit tell heavy now days. Why bother animating something when you can just have a character rattle it off? That, and a lot of stems from the manga they are based on in which tell is often the only method they can employ in such limited distribution space.
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Post by -Mazer on Tue Jul 14, 2015 1:47 pm

Is it wrong to be very disappointed that no one on Screw Attack has made a front page article about Iwata's passing? All they do now is advertise their streams

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Post by LegendX48 on Tue Jul 14, 2015 1:50 pm

Batgirl DLC is out for season pass holders this week and it is one hour long to beat and get all collectables...

-Mazer wrote:Is it wrong to be very disappointed that no one on Screw Attack has made a front page article about Iwata's passing? All they do now is advertise their streams
I'd say no, it isn't wrong to be disappointed in that.
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Post by LegendX48 on Tue Jul 14, 2015 2:23 pm

*watches new Jimquisition. Sees link that goes to a Randy Pitchford twitter thing that has devolved into chaos*

*Sees tweet about something called CodeHunters*



wow... Gearbox straight ripped this off, like 1:1, they didn't even try to do their own thing with it. Just full on, no holds barred, straight plagiarism :\
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Post by -Mazer on Tue Jul 14, 2015 3:34 pm

What u on about?

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Post by Koenig on Tue Jul 14, 2015 3:56 pm

So...Have you had any luck finding a copy of the Thousand Year Door, Mazer?
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Post by -Mazer on Tue Jul 14, 2015 4:14 pm

Haven't even looked. Funds have been VERY tight this month...that's why I've strictly been playing my older games to catch up w my backlog.



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Post by smirkytrick on Tue Jul 14, 2015 5:29 pm

LegendX48 wrote:
xXJus10Xx wrote:
LegendX48 wrote:Why does anime break the first rule of writing all of the time? That rule being "Show, don't tell," instead it does the opposite.

At the very least it is a trend I've noticed with the shows I've seen
Examples?
Since it's fresh on my mind, Serial Experiments: Lain. Granted, yeah, there were some moments late into the series where they didn't break that rule, there was an awful lot of moments it was basically just shoving information down your throat by literally telling you. There's one episode around halfway through the series that's just a full on info dump that doesn't even become relevant until the final two episodes.

edit: speaking of info dumps, Ergo Proxy has a MASSIVE, MASSIVE info dump on the final episode
Well, there's anime like Fooly Cooly & Space Dandy that do nothing but show the chaotic world that they are in, and then there anime like Black Lagoon where if they are not doing any action, they are planning on making an action.
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Post by -Mazer on Tue Jul 14, 2015 6:47 pm

So the director of Nosfertu had his grave desecrated and his head stolen...

that's a thing...

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Post by LegendX48 on Tue Jul 14, 2015 7:53 pm

-Mazer wrote:What u on about?
Gearbox straight stole the art style for borderlands from a short film called CodeHunters. Also, the Batgirl dlc is only 30 minutes long apparently. An hour if you do everything.
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Post by -Mazer on Tue Jul 14, 2015 8:05 pm

Dlc is pathetic these days. How much were they charging for her's?

And I can see the similarities...like very similar. Release date on that vs BL?

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Post by Koenig on Tue Jul 14, 2015 8:37 pm

Mazer.
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Post by Lunacy on Tue Jul 14, 2015 8:51 pm



lmao, can't believe this is the first time I've seen this. XD
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