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Post by zulux21 on Sun Mar 27, 2016 12:52 am

california doing something right for once.
gotta happen from time to time I suppose Razz

california gonna raise minimum wage to $15 over the next few years.
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Post by -Mazer on Sun Mar 27, 2016 1:01 am

TensePsychopath wrote:I have to commend Zack Snyder for taking fucking Batman versus Superman and managing to make it so interminably dull.

1. The studio forced him to remove 30 minutes of footage.
2. The movie was not dull. How the hell can a 30+ minute war be dull?
3. It was primarily about supes morality, bats anger and paranoia after losing Jason, and Lex Jrs manipulation of the two.

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Post by Koenig on Sun Mar 27, 2016 1:04 am

$15? Dayum. Would be nice if New Mexico raised its minimum wage.
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Post by TensePsychopath on Sun Mar 27, 2016 4:22 am

-Mazer wrote:
TensePsychopath wrote:I have to commend Zack Snyder for taking fucking Batman versus Superman and managing to make it so interminably dull.

1. The studio forced him to remove 30 minutes of footage.
2. The movie was not dull. How the hell can a 30+ minute war be dull?
3. It was primarily about supes morality, bats anger and paranoia after losing Jason, and Lex Jrs manipulation of the two.

1. Thank god. The movie already felt like one of the longest things I've ever sat through.
2. The movie is an over serious bore. The first hour and a half or so is filled with nothing but stone faced people giving overwritten monologues about power, god, and morality. No one talks like a human being, and there's no levity or likeable characters anywhere. I couldn't care less about the action by the time it comes because I don't care about any of the characters involved. Superman is a mopey asshole, Batman is a ruthless asshole. They're basically the same character in this movie.
3. And this story was told with the sublety of a fucking sledgehammer. Of course it was a film about Superman's morality, no one ever talked about anything else. Batman's story was the only thing even approaching good, but it's smothered in awful editing and far too much shit going all at once. Lex is probably the most confusing element of the movie. We have no motivation other than "He's arrogant and crazy". The way he's played and written just makes him irritating rather threatening.

And all this without even going into the horrendous shoehorning in of expanded DC universe elements. The movie somehow manages to be even more clunky than the Thor pool scene in Age of Ultron with its references and setups for future movies. Why is Wonder Woman even in this movie? WB thinks it can have its Avengers without doing any it the proper leg work, which is pathetic.

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Post by LegendX48 on Sun Mar 27, 2016 10:17 am

zulux21 wrote:california doing something right for once.
gotta happen from time to time I suppose Razz

california gonna raise minimum wage to $15 over the next few years.
they're also going to nullify it by also raising the cost of everything else, cause you know...
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Post by TensePsychopath on Sun Mar 27, 2016 1:36 pm



Gotta be one of their funniest reviews in a while.

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Post by LegendX48 on Sun Mar 27, 2016 2:55 pm

*reads Tense's post*

to be fair, Batman should be a ruthless asshole, but not a murderous one. The more I think about it the more it clicks that he's hypocrite in the movie.
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Post by TensePsychopath on Sun Mar 27, 2016 3:00 pm

Both him and Superman are massive hypocrites.

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What reason does Superman even have to hate Batman? Superman kills that terrorist guy in the very beginning of the movie then gets mad that Batman is killing criminals? YOU DO THE SAME THING, SUPES.

All the characters motivations in the movie are piss poor.

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Post by Cybersix on Sun Mar 27, 2016 3:06 pm

Mazer! I saw a black station wagon and I thought of you. :3
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Post by LegendX48 on Sun Mar 27, 2016 5:19 pm

TensePsychopath wrote:Both him and Superman are massive hypocrites.

Spoiler:
What reason does Superman even have to hate Batman? Superman kills that terrorist guy in the very beginning of the movie then gets mad that Batman is killing criminals? YOU DO THE SAME THING, SUPES.

All the characters motivations in the movie are piss poor.


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Honestly, I don't think Superman killed that guy but anywho... Batman is the one with shit motivation. Superman, as Clark, just wants to report on the craziness of Batman, he didn't really seem to have a vendetta or anything against him, just wanted to do his job. Batman, on the other hand, is the movie's biggest hypocrite by far. He hate's Superman cause people died when he was trying to stop Zod and then turns and fucking brutally murders every single person he can when he goes out as Batman, like... what the fuck, man? He has absolutely no moral ground to stand on. The point about Superman possibly going rogue, sure, that works, but going after him because of unintentional deaths that Zod caused while going out on a killing spree himself? You can't have your cake and eat it too, Batman!

Just... ugh. And then Jessie Eisenberg... fucking WB is in such a mad rush, chasing that Marvel money, it's kinda depressing. Fuck quality, fuck source material, fuck the current canon, GET TAHT MAHVEL MONIES GUISE!!!!!! ugh Really?


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Re: General Chat 12: It's 2016 with games aplenty

Post by TensePsychopath on Sun Mar 27, 2016 5:38 pm

LegendX48 wrote:
TensePsychopath wrote:Both him and Superman are massive hypocrites.

Spoiler:
What reason does Superman even have to hate Batman? Superman kills that terrorist guy in the very beginning of the movie then gets mad that Batman is killing criminals? YOU DO THE SAME THING, SUPES.

All the characters motivations in the movie are piss poor.


Spoiler:
Honestly, I don't think Superman killed that guy but anywho... Batman is the one with shit motivation. Superman, as Clark, just wants to report on the craziness of Batman, he didn't really seem to have a vendetta or anything against him, just wanted to do his job. Batman, on the other hand, is the movie's biggest hypocrite by far. He hate's Superman cause people died when he was trying to stop Zod and then turns and fucking brutally murders every single person he can when he goes out as Batman, like... what the fuck, man? He has absolutely no moral ground to stand on. The point about Superman possibly going rogue, sure, that works, but going after him because of unintentional deaths that Zod caused while going out on a killing spree himself? You can't have your cake and eat it too, Batman!

Just... ugh. And then Jessie Eisenberg... fucking WB is in such a mad rush, chasing that Marvel money, it's kinda depressing. Fuck quality, fuck source material, fuck the current canon, GET TAHT MAHVEL MONIES GUISE!!!!!! ugh Really?



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He slammed into that guy like a truck through walls. That guy is 100% dead or likely had every bone in his body shattered. Also Superman DID want to stop Batman, the first time they meet is when Supes tells him not to respond to the Bat signal and that "The Bat is dead, bury it. Consider this mercy." It's an absolutely baffling characterization of Superman.

It doesn't bode well for the DCU that Zack Snyder is a hack who completely misunderstands the characters he's working with.

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Post by LegendX48 on Sun Mar 27, 2016 5:58 pm

I think someone on Neogaf said it best when they mentioned that Zack Snyder knows that certain events occur but does not know why.
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Re: General Chat 12: It's 2016 with games aplenty

Post by Hugh Mungus on Sun Mar 27, 2016 6:32 pm

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You're a liar. I saw you eating Apple Jacks. I know you drank Apple Juice. And you know what? You know those Sour Apple Flavored candies that you had? Guess what... APPLE!!!
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Post by -Mazer on Sun Mar 27, 2016 9:52 pm

LegendX48 wrote:I think someone on Neogaf said it best when they mentioned that Zack Snyder knows that certain events occur but does not know why.

Why the hell does everyone blame Zack? He didn't write these movies. It's like blaming Bay for the TMNT movies...

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Post by -Mazer on Sun Mar 27, 2016 9:59 pm

And i think you both missed a pivotal part about why Batman is the way he is...

Spoiler:
Batman is not mad at Supes for killing people He is mad at Supes because he has ZERO accountability for his actions. He allows THOUSANDS of innocents to die in Metropolis and not once is he hauled out on it. He saves 1 person in the desert which causes warlords to slaughter hundreds more in retribution.

Bats hates Supes because he is above the law and he sees that as dangerous.


As for Bats killing people: This is AFTER Death in the Family. Joker murdered Jason Todd but there is no replacement to keep Batman back on track. This is batman at his lowest, his angriest; this is a batman who doesn't retire ala Dark Knight Returns comics but one who basically says f*ck it all and stops giving a shyt when it comes to people because he finally realized that by sparing Joker so many times, it allowed Joker to kill even more.

That's the WHOLE POINT of the ending dialogue about how Batman failed "him" Superman's sacrifice basically snaps Batman out of this rage and forced him to look back on himeslf. After the whole "Martha" moment, batman realized just how much he screwed up and how wrong he was



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Post by LegendX48 on Sun Mar 27, 2016 11:07 pm

-Mazer wrote:
LegendX48 wrote:I think someone on Neogaf said it best when they mentioned that Zack Snyder knows that certain events occur but does not know why.

Why the hell does everyone blame Zack? He didn't write these movies. It's like blaming Bay for the TMNT movies...
... I do blame Bay for the TMNT movies, his touch can be seen and smelled throughout it >.>

It's on par with, if not worse than, the last airbender.

But anywho, Zack Snyder DID have a decent hand in the script. He wanted Superman completely out of the way and even admitted this in an interview. Would explain why Superman was so shafted for most part.

-Mazer wrote:And i think you both missed a pivotal part about why Batman is the way he is...

Spoiler:
Batman is not mad at Supes for killing people He is mad at Supes because he has ZERO accountability for his actions. He allows THOUSANDS of innocents to die in Metropolis and not once is he hauled out on it. He saves 1 person in the desert which causes warlords to slaughter hundreds more in retribution.

Bats hates Supes because he is above the law and he sees that as dangerous.


As for Bats killing people: This is AFTER Death in the Family. Joker murdered Jason Todd but there is no replacement to keep Batman back on track. This is batman at his lowest, his angriest; this is a batman who doesn't retire ala Dark Knight Returns comics but one who basically says f*ck it all and stops giving a shyt when it comes to people because he finally realized that by sparing Joker so many times, it allowed Joker to kill even more.

That's the WHOLE POINT of the ending dialogue about how Batman failed "him" Superman's sacrifice basically snaps Batman out of this rage and forced him to look back on himeslf. After the whole "Martha" moment, batman realized just how much he screwed up and how wrong he was


Spoiler:
No, I got that, but he cannot complain about the loss of life and lack of consequence while he himself puts himself above the law and goes out on nightly killing sprees, not caring for the consequences. You can't have your cake and eat it too, Batman!

As far as the reasoning as to why Batman is the way he is... I get it but I still don't like it.
Spoiler:
I don't like murderous Batman, it betrays the character.
Ben Affleck has completely changed my mind and I want to see him as Bruce/Batman but not like this.
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Post by zulux21 on Mon Mar 28, 2016 12:49 am

Koenig wrote:$15?  Dayum.  Would be nice if New Mexico raised its minimum wage.
to be fair $15 an hour in california is still like $7.25 pretty much anywhere else Razz

LegendX48 wrote:
zulux21 wrote:california doing something right for once.
gotta happen from time to time I suppose Razz

california gonna raise minimum wage to $15 over the next few years.
they're also going to nullify it by also raising the cost of everything else, cause you know...
*sigh* no matter how much republican propaganda wants to make people believe that it just isn't the case. The cost of labor wages towards making a product are minimal compared to unit cost and marketing. There will be an increase in cost of items, but it will be a tiny fraction of the percent increase of wages. The most likely things to be effected will be stuff like food, but as for most other things they out right can't increase the cost. Amazon isn't going to start selling games at $65 because California raised min wage.
The main reason for this is because it's a free market and places need to stay competitive. The odds of any significant price increase is next to nothing and thus is a completely pointless thing to worry about with a min wage increase. (I mean to be fair if min wage had been set up correctly in the first place it would be up over $23 an hour at this point)

Now if you want to worry about something worry about it becoming harder to find a job. Companies won't pass on the price increase to the customer due to competition, but they may reduce the work force to cover the increased wages. There is legitimate concern over business cutting work force to leave the overall payment to employees around the same, BUT!!!! on the other hand most companies try to maximize everything already and thus are unlikely to have more workers than they need as it is. Plus with more people having more money, sales will likely increase and balance things out anyways, if not allow them to hire more people due to extra sales.

there is a nice breakdown here showing how states that raised their minimum wage actually saw job growth, increase sales, and less people living in poverty
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Post by Koenig on Mon Mar 28, 2016 1:18 am

Is it sad that I wish the Republican party would split into 2 or more groups?  I am a Republican and I believe in many of their core values, however I don't ever want to be associated with Trump or the tea party.
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Post by -Mazer on Mon Mar 28, 2016 1:30 am

LegendX48 wrote:
-Mazer wrote:
LegendX48 wrote:I think someone on Neogaf said it best when they mentioned that Zack Snyder knows that certain events occur but does not know why.

Why the hell does everyone blame Zack? He didn't write these movies. It's like blaming Bay for the TMNT movies...
... I do blame Bay for the TMNT movies, his touch can be seen and smelled throughout it >.>

It's on par with, if not worse than, the last airbender.

But anywho, Zack Snyder DID have a decent hand in the script. He wanted Superman completely out of the way and even admitted this in an interview. Would explain why Superman was so shafted for most part.

-Mazer wrote:And i think you both missed a pivotal part about why Batman is the way he is...

Spoiler:
Batman is not mad at Supes for killing people He is mad at Supes because he has ZERO accountability for his actions. He allows THOUSANDS of innocents to die in Metropolis and not once is he hauled out on it. He saves 1 person in the desert which causes warlords to slaughter hundreds more in retribution.

Bats hates Supes because he is above the law and he sees that as dangerous.


As for Bats killing people: This is AFTER Death in the Family. Joker murdered Jason Todd but there is no replacement to keep Batman back on track. This is batman at his lowest, his angriest; this is a batman who doesn't retire ala Dark Knight Returns comics but one who basically says f*ck it all and stops giving a shyt when it comes to people because he finally realized that by sparing Joker so many times, it allowed Joker to kill even more.

That's the WHOLE POINT of the ending dialogue about how Batman failed "him" Superman's sacrifice basically snaps Batman out of this rage and forced him to look back on himeslf. After the whole "Martha" moment, batman realized just how much he screwed up and how wrong he was


Spoiler:
No, I got that, but he cannot complain about the loss of life and lack of consequence while he himself puts himself above the law and goes out on nightly killing sprees, not caring for the consequences. You can't have your cake and eat it too, Batman!


As far as the reasoning as to why Batman is the way he is... I get it but I still don't like it.
Spoiler:
I don't like murderous Batman, it betrays the character.
Ben Affleck has completely changed my mind and I want to see him as Bruce/Batman but not like this.

Spoiler:
He never went on killing sprees. The actual body count is lower than 6 people of on screen deaths - mostly due to explosions...that is not a killing spree by any definition of the phrase...about 80% of the thugs he fought he disabled

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Post by Ochi on Mon Mar 28, 2016 1:41 am

LegendX48 wrote:got my first ranked mode rage quitter on SF5 o.o

Congrats? I thought you had already done that a few weeks ago?


also regarding Batman v Superman, I'd say that it really is Man of steel two, with all the faults and highlights of the previous entry.

Slow, plodding and brooding for the first half, CGI EXPLOSIONS AND FIGHTING FOR ACT 3, BOOM KASHHEEEEW BLAM WHOOSH!
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Post by zulux21 on Mon Mar 28, 2016 2:28 am

Koenig wrote:Is it sad that I wish the Republican party would split into 2 or more groups?  I am a Republican and I believe in many of their core values, however I don't ever want to be associated with Trump or the tea party.

out of curiosity I must ask, what are these core values you believe in?

At this point it's gotten hard for me to see any core republican positions I couldn't easily find by reading the Dos and Don'ts of the bible. And I really just started following politics this last year so I am not sure what Republicans used to run on.

I know pro life has always been part of the republican platform though.
beyond that from this go around their platform seems to be based around being racist(we only get the rapists and drug people from mexico according to most of them >.<:) and keeping anyone not american from america, Tax breaks for everyone but mostly the rich, increasing government spending on our military, and going to war with more places. Thus I am curious what platforms I am missing.

For the record while I would lean towards voting democratic I believe I would be considered a socialist. Where I talk it's very pro democratic though, so I am curious what other things make up the republican party.

as for the whole break up thing... I really wish that both democrats and republicans would break up in general. Have people just run on their beliefs without people blindly voting towards a party, and merely voting for who they think are best.

For example my aunt is a republican. Hates all the republican candidates, likes Bernie, dislikes Hillary but less than the republicans, but still will likely just vote for the republican because they are republican.

I've never understood not voting for who you think will do the job the best *shrugs*
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Post by Koenig on Mon Mar 28, 2016 1:12 pm

Conservative values, certain supposed morals, stances on immigration, and the like; however of all the current candidates I can vote for, none of them represent any of those from the position I want to see.  I would much rather vote for Bernie than ANY of the current representatives of my own party.

Also in other news:


This really makes me wish the New 3DS had been the default hardware design from the beginning of the system.
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Post by LegendX48 on Mon Mar 28, 2016 1:43 pm

Ochi wrote:
LegendX48 wrote:got my first ranked mode rage quitter on SF5 o.o

Congrats? I thought you had already done that a few weeks ago?


also regarding Batman v Superman, I'd say that it really is Man of steel two, with all the faults and highlights of the previous entry.

Slow, plodding and brooding for the first half, CGI EXPLOSIONS AND FIGHTING FOR ACT 3,  BOOM KASHHEEEEW BLAM WHOOSH!
I had a rage quitter in casuals. Hadn't encountered any in ranked until yesterday.

-Mazer wrote:
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He never went on killing sprees. The actual body count is lower than 6 people of on screen deaths - mostly due to explosions...that is not a killing spree by any definition of the phrase...about 80% of the thugs he fought he disabled
Spoiler:
His first showing in the Batmobile is him killing with reckless abandon. Minimum 6-9 people killed by him in that scene alone. Then he kills even more with the Batwing before jumping into the building to save Martha Kent.
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