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Gen Chat XLII: SMASH BROS. LEAK CONFIRMED REAL!
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Re: Gen Chat XLII: SMASH BROS. LEAK CONFIRMED REAL!
by Cybersix Wed Sep 10, 2014 10:50 pm
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by Koenig Wed Sep 10, 2014 11:10 pm
But that came long after they had a chance to port it to the Wii U. I have been wanting to see it come to the Wii U since that thing came out, and unlike most people here I think Minecraft is a great game. I have had $20 sitting aside simply waiting for the taking if Mojang would just put it on the Wii U.smirkytrick wrote:Mojong probably considered a WiiU version of Mincraft at one point, but probably got offers from Microsoft shortly after their Sony announcement.
My main complaint about Microsoft buying it however stems from the fact I hate "Bought" exclusivity. I find it to be unethical and illogical. If Microsoft had helped in the creation of Minecraft from its conception i could understand, however Minecraft has already come to every system (Except the Wii U, which still irritates me) so becoming an exclusive at this point would be a slap in the face to fans of the series who play it on the i-phone/PS3/PS4. Sure it makes perfect business sense I suppose (Though 2 Billion seems like a very steep sum to pay, eroding my confidence in that)
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by Koenig Thu Sep 11, 2014 12:02 am
Welp, I killed the thread again. Here, have a cat picture!
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Re: Gen Chat XLII: SMASH BROS. LEAK CONFIRMED REAL!
by Lunacy Thu Sep 11, 2014 12:04 am
Why are you singling out MS for buying studios like that? Companies do it all the time. Companies buy exclusivity all the time. Why is MS doing it this one time so horrible/different? I'm just confused because this is the first time I'm seeing this argument here even though companies have been bought before.
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Re: Gen Chat XLII: SMASH BROS. LEAK CONFIRMED REAL!
by LegendX48 Thu Sep 11, 2014 12:24 am
because MinecraftDarth Luna wrote:Why are you singling out MS for buying studios like that? Companies do it all the time. Companies buy exclusivity all the time. Why is MS doing it this one time so horrible/different? I'm just confused because this is the first time I'm seeing this argument here even though companies have been bought before.
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Re: Gen Chat XLII: SMASH BROS. LEAK CONFIRMED REAL!
by Koenig Thu Sep 11, 2014 12:31 am
My argument is by no means limited to Microsoft, they just happen to be on my shit list as of late.
ALSO: My rough draft for my review is finished! would any of you mind giving some feedback/proof reading?
ALSO: My rough draft for my review is finished! would any of you mind giving some feedback/proof reading?
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- Professor Layton VS Ace Attorney
Announced back in 2010, Professor Layton VS Ace Attorney was the first Crossover game between Level 5's and Capcom's respective series. The looked to combined the puzzle solving and whimsical stores of one with the murder mysteries and court battles of the other. Fans of both series were excited while new comers were intrigued by crossover. Four years later the game has finally made its way to the US; As a whole just how well do these two games work together?
Professor Layton VS Ace Attorney starts with a girl by the name of Espella Cantabella being chased by a hoard of witches. After narrowly escaping one of the witches attacks she makes her way to London and enlists the help of Professor Layton and (later on) Phoenix Wright to help her; however before either of these two make much progress in helping the girl they are inexplicably transported to another place by the writing on an odd book. They find themselves in Labyrinthia, A medieval world where witches reside, magic is real, and where every action and event is dictated by the will of a mysterious man called the Story Teller. Proffesor Layton and Phoneix Wright along with their respective partners must work together in order to protect Espella and uncover the truth behind Labyrinthia.
Throughout the story players will come across a handful of colorful characters and eccentric ego's that are scattered throughout Labryinthia; each with their own unique personality and role to play in the Story Tellers scheme. Dotting from one lead to another, Layton and Phoenix gather information and find out more about the secret behind the strange world they have found themselves in, however they can never get to far before before a witches trial inevitably requires their presence. At several points in the game the Layton ,Write, and company will split up to investigate different parts of Labyrinthia or defend their client at hand; serving to tell different sides of the story and progress the plot in a meaningful way. The majority of the story is told during the exploration segments of the game, while most major plot twists and revelations are revealed during the court battles between Phoenix Wright and the Inquisition. The setting and pace is very Layton-esc in its style, presentation, and plot; meaning players will be captivated from moment to moment, but the story itself falls apart with any degree of close scrutiny; the end game in particular tends to drag on for longer than it should while coming up with the most roundabout conclusion possible. One other thing to note however, is that due to the setting and source material the story is several shades darker than what you would typically expect from an Ace Attorney game, let alone one from a Professor Layton title. While this may be initially jarring to some, the change in tone suits the game well and adds a sense of urgency to the plot that many previous games in the respective series have lacked.
Much like the two series that comprise it, Professor Layton VS Ace Attorney is a visual novel in which players explore the world of Labyrinthia, investigate mysteries, and solve puzzles. Throughout the game players will guide Layton and Write through the various locations of Labyrinthia in their mission to help Espella and uncover the secret behind the medieval land they have found themselves in. Much like most visuals novels and all previous games in their series, the world they find themselves in is split into a handful of static sections that players can examine find puzzles, clues, NPC's, and the odd hint coin or three. Most locations have a handful of content scattered throughout them and you will often be tasked with examining them to progress through the game. As the game progresses and players scourer the world for clues, you will collect a number of key items and story segments from these locations that play a an important role later on in game. Oddly enough however, most of these locations contain very little to do, and do not need to be traversed more than once as the story progresses.
Puzzles were a defining factor of the Professor Layton series and they make a return as integral part of this game; they are often presented to the player by NPC's or after finding them hidden among the backdrop. They play a major role in this game and completing as many as possible is highly encouraged. Players are given a number of tools to assist them when it comes to puzzles should they find them to be to difficult or time consuming; The aptly named Hint coins make a return and can be spent to unlock hints to the puzzle at hand, while the memo system is also included for players to work with if they so choose. Completing any puzzle will award the player with a number of points called “Picarats”; the amount of which varies depending on the difficulty of the puzzle and how easily you can complete them. A few select puzzles are required to finish the game, while most other puzzles given to the player are entirely optional; however players who can gather enough Picarats by the end of the game will rewarded with additional content, creating an incentive to find and finish as many puzzles as possible for those interested in going the extra mile.
During set portions of the game players will be tasked with finding certain items within an area and eventually use them in court battles, the staple of the Ace Attorney series. The investigate segments have been all but removed in their streamlined integration into the game, however the items and the trials they are used in remain essentially the same. During trials players take control of Phoenix Wright and are tasked with cross-examining witnesses to gather information and too present evidence when their testimony contradicts it. While simple in concept, these trials can be both extremely fun and harrowing in execution. Finding the contradiction to a testimony can be an exhilarating experience while hitting a dead end can be absolutely infuriating; however hint coins are also available for the player to use in trials which can greatly help mitigate the frustration and remove trial and error (Long time fans of Ace Attorney series will likely love this particular addition) Much of a trials content will also provide much needed comic relief via exaggerated character reactions, humorous dialogue, and clever animation.
Several other refinements have been made to the aspects of previous Layton and Ace Attorney games that made their way into the crossover. The magnifying glass used to interact with the game changes color when hovering over important objects and will glimmer when a hint coin can be found. Each segment has a clear list of items and puzzles so that players can find content they missed the first time through without aimlessly wandering the town checking every square inch for something they missed the first time through. Story progression has been streamlined. Hints have been improved and the like. Many other improvements stem from the marriage of game mechanics from the Layton and Ace Attorney series, however small or big some of them may be (One again, we can not emphasize enough how useful hint coins are during trials) On the other hand there are several features that did not make their way into the crossover, such as Layton's mini-games or Phoenix Wright's magatama interrogations. Despite this however, the game still holds up against its predecessors and its unique combination of mechanics improve the game as a whole.
Professor Layton VS Phoenix Wright takes the visual styles from previous
games and combines them with a fantasy setting to create its own unique design; the styles of both series fit well together and in combination with the medieval setting manages to make the game feel like a story book come to life. Characters models are well made and expertly animated to match their personalities while clever writing further complement the visual aesthetic; however there are times when the framerate will inexplicably drop; while it is of little consequence in a text based game it is noticeable none the less. The soundtrack for the game consists of a number remixed themes from its parent games along with a score of original pieces for the crossover itself; the vast majority of these themes match the tone of the game perfectly, and some are well worth listening to regardless of context.
Many parts of the game also include voice acting for the various characters in the game while fully animated video's are also included to denote important events. The voice acting is done well for most part; major characters and NPC's have their personality and styles portrayed flawlessly, however not all characters were so fortunate with their respective cast of voice actors, leaving some sounding quite different than what their personalities imply. Professor Layton VS Ace Attorney also includes fully animated video's to denote important events and plots twists; These video's are well animated and executed, however most of them do not work well with the 3DS's 3D effect turned on-namely depth perception errors. Ultimately the visual aesthetic of the game matches both of its respective series well while its new additions complement them further. A few graphical hiccups will likely pull players out of the experience; however as a whole, the game looks and feels great.
Strong gameplay, missed opportunity, less than the sum of its parts.
Professor Layton VS Ace Attorney is an entertaining crossover and a strong addition to the 3DS library. The story for the game is both engaging and fun, albeit being a touch nonsensical in hindsight. The combination of the two games and their mechanics compliment each other well, laying the foundation for improvements to both series; however the omission and dilution of several mechanics often feels like a missed opportunity. The first cross-over between Professor Layton and Ace Attorney is a fantastic adventure that is sure to please fans of either series. At its best it is an engaging and entertaining visual novel, while at its worst it is less than sum of its parts.
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Re: Gen Chat XLII: SMASH BROS. LEAK CONFIRMED REAL!
by Lunacy Thu Sep 11, 2014 12:34 am
Hypothetical, then. If Nintendo really wants Minecraft and they instead decide to buy Mojang to not just finally get the game, but get exclusivity, what would you say?
I know what I would, good for them.
I know what I would, good for them.
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Re: Gen Chat XLII: SMASH BROS. LEAK CONFIRMED REAL!
by Koenig Thu Sep 11, 2014 12:35 am
While I would be happy that the game was finally on the system, I would not approve of its exclusivity. It simply goes against the ethics I believe in.
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by Lunacy Thu Sep 11, 2014 12:37 am
Ethics? So you don't like companies buying each other out?
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Re: Gen Chat XLII: SMASH BROS. LEAK CONFIRMED REAL!
by Lux Thu Sep 11, 2014 12:53 am
THE LORD AND SAVIOR HAS RISEN TO LAY WASTE
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by smirkytrick Thu Sep 11, 2014 1:50 am
IT'S PIKACHU!!!!Lux wrote:
THE LORD AND SAVIOR HAS RISEN TO LAY WASTE
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by Lux Thu Sep 11, 2014 2:02 am
smirkytrick wrote:IT'S PIKACHU!!!!Lux wrote:
THE LORD AND SAVIOR HAS RISEN TO LAY WASTE
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Re: Gen Chat XLII: SMASH BROS. LEAK CONFIRMED REAL!
by TensePsychopath Thu Sep 11, 2014 2:55 am
For anyone who wants to see Smash Bros. leaks here's the stream: http://www.twitch.tv/hamayama
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by Lux Thu Sep 11, 2014 3:32 am
This guy kinda sucks. XDTensePsychopath wrote:For anyone who wants to see Smash Bros. leaks here's the stream: http://www.twitch.tv/hamayama
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by TensePsychopath Thu Sep 11, 2014 3:39 am
Lux wrote:This guy kinda sucks. XDTensePsychopath wrote:For anyone who wants to see Smash Bros. leaks here's the stream: http://www.twitch.tv/hamayama
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He's fucking terrible, he lost to you-know-who about 4 times.
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by TensePsychopath Thu Sep 11, 2014 4:04 am
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- The streamer just lost against Dr. Mario twice
EDIT: THREE times smh
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by Lux Thu Sep 11, 2014 4:13 am
TensePsychopath wrote:
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EDIT: THREE times smh
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- I love Master Hand's "YOU!!!!" animation when he comes in. XD
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by TensePsychopath Thu Sep 11, 2014 4:15 am
Lux wrote:TensePsychopath wrote:
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EDIT: THREE times smh
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- Did you see the new boss, Master Core?
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by Lux Thu Sep 11, 2014 4:18 am
Nope.TensePsychopath wrote:Lux wrote:TensePsychopath wrote:
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EDIT: THREE times smh
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by TensePsychopath Thu Sep 11, 2014 4:54 am
FOR MAZER AGAIN:
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by -Mazer Thu Sep 11, 2014 5:43 am
I am going to meet Roddy Roddy Piper....and ron jeremy. Omg
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by Koenig Thu Sep 11, 2014 9:43 am
Context my friend. If a third party publisher bought out another 3rd party publisher I would not mind, as all of there content would still be freely available on all systems. By contrast if a first party company buys out a 3rd party I would be very annoyed; as any games that were once multiplatform or any chance of them happening again would be gone in a puff of smoke. (Save for copies that already exist) This is why, for example; even though I would like to see Nintendo or Sony buy up (Namely, straiten out) Capcom, I am ultimately against it because Capcoms IP's would become exclusive to one system or the other. Microsoft buying Mojang is simply an active example of this kind of thing.Darth Luna wrote:Ethics? So you don't like companies buying each other out?
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by Lunacy Thu Sep 11, 2014 12:05 pm
Ah ok, that makes more sense now. Initially it sounded like you were singling out MS just based on the current state of affairs.Koenig wrote:Context my friend. If a third party publisher bought out another 3rd party publisher I would not mind, as all of there content would still be freely available on all systems. By contrast if a first party company buys out a 3rd party I would be very annoyed; as any games that were once multiplatform or any chance of them happening again would be gone in a puff of smoke. (Save for copies that already exist) This is why, for example; even though I would like to see Nintendo or Sony buy up (Namely, straiten out) Capcom, I am ultimately against it because Capcoms IP's would become exclusive to one system or the other. Microsoft buying Mojang is simply an active example of this kind of thing.
Anyhow, I'm inclined to agree with you, except when it comes to EA, Activision or Ubisoft. I'd rather have any of the first party publishers buy someone than those three. In fact, I still lament that MS didn't buy BioWare/Pandemic back in the day. I'm not sure how much more trustworthy MS would have been, but seeing what EA has done, and the fact that BioWare was pretty much making games exclusively for 360 anyway, I would have preferred that. Still, with the way MS has gone, you never know if EA was just the lesser of two evils.....I doubt it, since they're my most hated gaming company right now.
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Re: Gen Chat XLII: SMASH BROS. LEAK CONFIRMED REAL!
by Cybersix Thu Sep 11, 2014 12:30 pm
Mojang only made one game, so good on Markus for getting that amount of money. They could just quit and make a new studio with that money.
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