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Post by Koenig Tue Jan 20, 2015 12:00 am

I watch TV because in part because it is passive, if I wanted to dedicate more time I would read Manga's to begin with instead of anime; granted animation, color, music, and pacing are other perks that come with anime over manga.
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Post by Lunacy Tue Jan 20, 2015 12:02 am

Yeah, but because of the added stuff, many anime won't get finished or many manga won't even be adapted. I have a list of many manga that I would love love to see adapted, but nooo. D:
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Post by Koenig Tue Jan 20, 2015 12:28 am

I would love to see a certain book series turned into an anime.  It would be fantastic; but alas, Japan likes mecha's more than dragons...

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Post by Lunacy Tue Jan 20, 2015 12:30 am

I don't think Mecha is the opponent. It's shitty harem series. There are literally like 6 new ones airing right now...that are all about the harem. And for the most part, they're essentially the same show. -__-
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Post by Koenig Tue Jan 20, 2015 12:38 am

Still, it does make me wonder how much it would cost to fund the development of an anime on an existing book series.  Then again I know that many Japanese studio's actually approach the author first and not the other way around.
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Post by Lunacy Tue Jan 20, 2015 12:41 am

Yeah, but I have seen that there are kickstarter type things for anime. If there was a studio that was willing to make it, just not able because there was no money backing the project, that'd be a good avenue...maybe. Kickstarter type deals can be really tricky to pull off.
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Post by Justin Tue Jan 20, 2015 9:05 am

Luna wrote:I don't think Mecha is the opponent. It's shitty harem series. There are literally like 6 new ones airing right now...that are all about the harem. And for the most part, they're essentially the same show. -__-
One blank, shitty guy unable to read other's feelings, and several women each displaying generic personality traits.

...Yeah, harems are getting stale.
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Post by Lunacy Tue Jan 20, 2015 12:41 pm

Not getting, it's been like that for years now.
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Post by Koenig Tue Jan 20, 2015 3:41 pm

Harem anime were stale to begin with.
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Post by Lunacy Tue Jan 20, 2015 4:10 pm

I'd argue against that, but only as far to to say that, looking back, the initial formula was boring to begin with.
Mainly, the most stereotypical mc, which is the dense coward that is secretly a pervert.
Other variations will include the mc not being and out and out coward, but he will instead be an moronic pervert. Perversion ranging from extreme to just a clumsy fool.
Indecisive protagonists are also fucking annoying.
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Post by Justin Tue Jan 20, 2015 6:22 pm

Also, the women apparently don't go out often, seeing as they all like the mc and the mc only.
There are MANY better choices out there, ladies...
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Post by Squirrel500 Tue Jan 20, 2015 9:37 pm

Koenig wrote:Harem anime were stale to begin with.

I agree with you only cuz I haven't seen many harem anime
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Post by Koenig Tue Jan 20, 2015 9:40 pm

Admittedly it would be nice to see a character who was not a pervert, which is probably the reason I never thought of "Ah! My Goddess" as harem before.  Simply not having a pervert is such a deviation from the norm it deserves a fucking nomination.
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Post by Lunacy Tue Jan 20, 2015 9:43 pm

Squirrel500 wrote:
Koenig wrote:Harem anime were stale to begin with.

I agree with you only cuz I haven't seen many harem anime
Then you can't agree or have that much of an opinion on it. >_>

*shun's squirrel*
Koenig wrote:Admittedly it would be nice to see a character who was not a pervert, which is probably the reason I never thought of "Ah! My Goddess" as harem before.  Simply not having a pervert is such a deviation from the norm it deserves a fucking nomination.
I know right? Though now a days people will settle for an mc that isn't a coward/pussy.
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Post by Squirrel500 Tue Jan 20, 2015 9:46 pm

Koenig wrote:Admittedly it would be nice to see a character who was not a pervert, which is probably the reason I never thought of "Ah! My Goddess" as harem before.  Simply not having a pervert is such a deviation from the norm it deserves a fucking nomination.

man I need to get to that one, is that one a long series?
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Post by Koenig Tue Jan 20, 2015 11:12 pm

Squirrel500 wrote:
Koenig wrote:Admittedly it would be nice to see a character who was not a pervert, which is probably the reason I never thought of "Ah! My Goddess" as harem before.  Simply not having a pervert is such a deviation from the norm it deserves a fucking nomination.

man I need to get to that one, is that one a long series?
Two seasons.
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Post by ColumbianLoom Wed Jan 21, 2015 12:45 am

Hmmmm I'm going to give my perspective on the harem argument:

Harems, while have been done so many times, make tons of money in japan and because of that it helps fund bigger and more ambitious projects for studios.

Getting rid of harems would critically wound the anime industry and that's why you need harems to keep this industry afloat. A lot of these manga series that some of you may be speaking of probably wouldn't be that popular and it would be financial failure. Actually, the money generated from harems allows studios to take risks for some mangas/LNs/VNs that would probably never see the light of day animated if the harem money wasn't generated.

So bash all you want, but it's making money for studios and that's just a fact.

Harems are here to stay and will never go away, so I just say, "If you can't beat 'em, join 'em." I personally like watching harems and don't think too much of them. They're fun and easy to watch, I have no problems with them. If they're making money for studios then by all means keep them coming.
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Post by Koenig Wed Jan 21, 2015 12:51 am

You know...I really wish other people watched Wakfu.  I am enjoying it much much more than I ever thought I would, despite the odd animation and terrible dubbing.  Granted its not technically an anime, but it is closer to anime than anything you would find on something cartoon network.
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Post by Lunacy Wed Jan 21, 2015 12:56 am

ColumbianLoom wrote:Hmmmm I'm going to give my perspective on the harem argument:

Harems, while have been done so many times, make tons of money in japan and because of that it helps fund bigger and more ambitious projects for studios.

Getting rid of harems would critically wound the anime industry and that's why you need harems to keep this industry afloat. A lot of these manga series that some of you may be speaking of probably wouldn't be that popular and it would be financial failure. Actually, the money generated from harems allows studios to take risks for some mangas/LNs/VNs that would probably never see the light of day animated if the harem money wasn't generated.

So bash all you want, but it's making money for studios and that's just a fact.

Harems are here to stay and will never go away, so I just say, "If you can't beat 'em, join 'em." I personally like watching harems and don't think too much of them. They're fun and easy to watch, I have no problems with them. If they're making money for studios then by all means keep them coming.
Nobody ever said they didn't make money. In fact, that's a point I've pointed out a ton of times as to why they exists. You're just making the same argument that people make for CoD, but that wasn't the point. We're just lamenting the fact of that as a whole. Or at least I am. But still SIX FUCKING SHOWS THAT ARE TOO SIMILAR CAN'T BE GOOD FOR THE INDUSTRY AS A WHOLE.
Koenig wrote:You know...I really wish other people watched Wakfu.  I am enjoying it much much more than I ever thought I would, despite the odd animation and terrible dubbing.
I'm not interested. I'm more interested in a Taiwanese series called Wang Pai Yi Shu, but not attention is even being paid to that by fan translators. D:
Well, the manga version is, a bit, but not the animated version.
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Post by Koenig Wed Jan 21, 2015 12:59 am

I guess I am ambivalent on the whole thing then,  I agree with Loom in regards to funding other shows, but I am with Luna in regards to the state of the industry.
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Post by Koenig Wed Jan 21, 2015 1:01 am

Random Observation:  Is it just me or does virtually EVERY main character in an anime have a severe eating disorder?
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Post by Lunacy Wed Jan 21, 2015 1:02 am

Can anyone here log in to mal? It was undergoing server maintenance today and it's finally back up, but it didn't allow me to sign in, told me I tried to sign in too many times and that I was banned from trying for 2 hours.
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Post by Koenig Wed Jan 21, 2015 1:02 am

Mal?  Wat that?
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Post by Lunacy Wed Jan 21, 2015 1:03 am

Koenig wrote:Random Observation:  Is it just me or does virtually EVERY main character in an anime have a severe eating disorder?
Everybody is a glutton!
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Post by Lunacy Wed Jan 21, 2015 1:03 am

Koenig wrote:Mal?  Wat that?
http://myanimelist.net/
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