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Post by LegendX48 Sat Sep 12, 2015 5:38 pm

-Mazer wrote:You need to switch to Mortal Kombat. Lot less rage.

Also - three levels completed for Mario Maker. I am working on a storyline for Bowser. It's you having him break out of jail, swim through the sewer, escape the castle, then steal an airship Very Happy

...mortal kombat is a lousy fighter >.>

*was decent with Sub-Zero*

I needs Tekken 7!
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Post by Koenig Sat Sep 12, 2015 9:06 pm

Spent the last five hours learning how to make a ball move in unity.

*Exasperated cheer*
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Post by Cybersix Sat Sep 12, 2015 9:24 pm

-Mazer wrote:You need to switch to Mortal Kombat. Lot less rage.

Also - three levels completed for Mario Maker. I am working on a storyline for Bowser. It's you having him break out of jail, swim through the sewer, escape the castle, then steal an airship Very Happy

That dastardly koopa!
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Post by Koenig Sat Sep 12, 2015 11:58 pm

Seven hours and I made my first game. Fackin'ell.
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Post by -Mazer Sun Sep 13, 2015 12:43 am

let us play
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Post by Koenig Sun Sep 13, 2015 12:55 am

Tis only a ball in a box rolling around and collecting blocks.

I don't actually know how to share the file though...
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Post by -Mazer Sun Sep 13, 2015 1:27 am

turn it into an exe and share through mediafire?
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Post by Koenig Sun Sep 13, 2015 1:37 am

I have never used mediafire or any other file sharing service before. Do I need an account?
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Post by LegendX48 Sun Sep 13, 2015 11:25 am

So, I just now realized that I can actually stream stuff in higher quality now since we got our modem upgraded... should I stream any stuffs?
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Post by Koenig Sun Sep 13, 2015 11:32 am

Depends on what you are streaming and when.
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Post by Lunacy Sun Sep 13, 2015 11:44 am

He's probably gonna take over Mazar's striptease shows.
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Post by LegendX48 Sun Sep 13, 2015 11:53 am

Gonna test out these settings, anyone mind checking it out for the quality?

http://www.twitch.tv/legendx48
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Post by Lunacy Sun Sep 13, 2015 11:54 am

I need flash to watch! D:
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Post by Koenig Sun Sep 13, 2015 1:06 pm

@Mazer: I offered you an apprenticeship in Fallen London. Should you ever play it again, you can accept it to gain extra XP in some of your skills.
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Post by LegendX48 Sun Sep 13, 2015 1:38 pm

I'm nearly done with the witcher 3!

Gonna try and finish it up today so I can move on to Mad Max.
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Post by -Mazer Sun Sep 13, 2015 2:11 pm

Koenig wrote:I have never used mediafire or any other file sharing service before.  Do I need an account?
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Post by Ochi Sun Sep 13, 2015 3:57 pm

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Um.... I'm not sure how to say it but it's not about analyzing frame data, it's about execution. Yes frame data does come into play in terms of how strict the timing is for accomplishing a link or or a cancel (along with generally indicating what combos are possible), but your assertion that " THAT IS FUCKING ABSURD AND NO OTHER FIGHTER DOES THAT" is patently false. Literally almost every 2D fighting game has difficult links when you get to that point, the aforementioned "one-frame-link" is simply part of the genre.

That said SF5 is going to be a different beast that SF4 in terms of the combo system and combo potential, so while it will on average be less difficult to execute basic combos, there will still likely be a few one frame links that form the basis of more complex combo options.

If you want to practice on PC I have SF4 Arcade Edition.
That's not true either. Skullgirls, and from what I can recall when I tried out Persona 4 Arena, there were no 1 frame links for basic combos. Skullgirls in particular is like perfect in this regard. Most of the fighters I've played in general do not operate on 1 frame links for everything. SF4 is just so asinine in demanding absolute perfection just for a simple 2+ hit combo when no other game I've played requires god like skills to play on the most basic levels. All I was trying to do yesterday was Cammy's Ultra trials but trial 12 took me 3 hours @_@ and it's just a simple 4 hit combo. That should not be necessary for something so simple.

Ah, your gripe is with trial mode and 1-frame links being "basic" Very Happy

Pro-tip: most of the combos in trial mode are not representative of what actual people do. Trials mode is basically jank after the first 12 (at least in sf4 prior to ultra) or so and you have to read between the lines of what they're trying to teach you. Many people do not use one frame link combos specifically because the timing is so strict, but you should be able to do a couple now and again on command (primarily links from normals into special moves like crouching light punch into cannon spike)

1 frame links from normals to more normals are mostly for doing stylish optimized combos, but you almost never see them any level of play

Don't take it to heart, realize that the most of the trials in trial mode ARE NOT the basic combos for a character, go to shoryuken or event hubs for a better sense of basic bread and butter stuff

As for the other games, Skullgirls is full of one frame links once you get past a certain skill threshold, especially if you play a character like fillia and are trying to do aerial rushdown or extended air combos in general

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Judging from the matches I've played, the entire cast has a speed advantage over Mila + just a straight and blunt advantage when up close in general. It's either be defensive and lose slowly, or lose faster. That and, unlike a majority of the characters, all of her moves can be seen coming from a mile away for extremely easy counters, which is another hurdle since all her combos are high attacks and getting people into the air simply isn't possible sometimes. Regardless, Azuardo won 30, I won 3, so that's something >.> lol

Sounds like you need to get your counter and evasion game up then if your're stuck on the defensive

Like does any of this stuff still work in the current version of the game? There are a few counter hit combos (ie you push buttons when they do and win) and then just combos as a result of landing an actual counter



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Post by Ochi Sun Sep 13, 2015 3:59 pm

-Mazer wrote:
Koenig wrote:I have never used mediafire or any other file sharing service before.  Do I need an account?
bbyup

just a warning on mediafire: it's covered in ads, and has several fake "download now" banners that try to get you to download download managers and junk like that
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Post by Koenig Sun Sep 13, 2015 5:16 pm

Any safer alternatives I could use?
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Post by LegendX48 Sun Sep 13, 2015 6:04 pm

@ochi, That's DoA5 Ultimate, I have Last Round (which is on 1.04 at the moment). I know there's at least one combo I've seen on youtube in general that doesn't work anymore where Mila could pick an opponent back up off the floor (after being launched) and onto their feet with a low kick.

My biggest issue is that all combos can be countered during any and all hits. Mila's moves are extremely obvious so anyone I play online can very easily see where to counter. She seems kind of similar to Steve from Tekken and, at least judging by how my brother plays him, they have similar weaknesses in that they nothing but high attacks and have shit defense against kicks and low attacks.

edit: watching more of that video, those "Guaranteed" combos are bullshit. They aren't guaranteed to work and will, in fact, fail if you try them online. The floor grapples especially have 5 openings to escape.
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Post by Koenig Sun Sep 13, 2015 7:40 pm

*Continues working with unity tutorials*

*Unity tutorial videos are for Unity 4.0, and I am using 5.0*

*Continues running into coding errors due to changes in software*

Fakin'ell!
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Post by Cybersix Sun Sep 13, 2015 8:15 pm

I got a Ganondorf amiibo. c:
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Post by smirkytrick Sun Sep 13, 2015 8:50 pm

Has anyone seen that Disney Squid Wars thing?
Fucking seriously?!
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Post by LegendX48 Sun Sep 13, 2015 8:59 pm

Cybersix wrote:I got a Ganondorf amiibo. c:
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smirkytrick wrote:Has anyone seen that Disney Squid Wars thing?
Fucking seriously?!
yeah. It's a user created level. It was created by the devs, sure, but it's a user created level nonetheless.
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Post by Koenig Sun Sep 13, 2015 11:40 pm

*has spent four hours on the same piece of code, trying to get it to work for unity 5*

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