Gen Chat 9: THE HORROR!

Lux wrote:
No. You can't take her like that, Fire Emblem. I'm putting in my pink ribbon hair pin and pretty pink pansy princess dress and I'm switching to Casual Mode with pride.

smirkytrick wrote:@zulu
Never thought that SU and Avatar wouldn't have that much in common other than good writing. But thinking about it now, that's a really fitting comparison.

@ Mazer
Just curious, have you ever tried or at least heard of Undertale?

zulux21 wrote:

-Mazer wrote:Saying that it will surpass Avatar is a serious prediction.

it's actually lining up quite favoriablly to Avatar. It's got a bit more kiddy humor in it (and a number of fun songs), and it suffers a bit from being 11 min episodes instead of 22 but when you combine the episodes down into 22 min episodes (so 26 episode seasons vs 20 for avatar) you have a similar path in season 1.

you both start with a child of destiny, in avatar it is a lot more clear what that is at the start, but either way both shows are comedy focus for a good part of season 1 and as you reach the second half of season one start digging into the lore and becoming more serious.

In a season 1 battle I would give the edge to Avatar as it started a bit more serious, but SU isn't a slouch there, the end arc of season 1 is a nice battle with a number of big reveals that they have been building to all season and a ton of new information to deal with leading into season 2.

In season 2 it becomes a neck and neck battle for me at this point. Avatar still has less random extra stuff going on, but the difference really isn't that much between them at this point. Even with the random stuff more and more lore is coming out and the plot is moving along, and for the last couple episodes and likely the next 4 eps or so they have been building up a big ass mid season event with tons of lore on top of it. I mean the most recent episode dealt heavily with slavery, a caste system, and racism. (granted there were jokes going on while doing this but that is the only way this would have been allowed, if they had gone the straight talking about them route they would have needed at least a tv14 rating lol)

We will have to see how the final product is, but SU makes one thing very clear, much like the Avatar Writers they care a lot about their universe. They do a ton of research and try to make sure there are as few contradictions as possible, and they do a crap ton of setting up for later events before you even know those later events are coming meaning there is plenty of things to notice on a second watch.

It's the type of show now that when you sit down and watch it you watch for the little details because there is no such thing as an object that is in the show because they thought it would look cool, pretty much everything is there for a reason.

If season 2 continues as it is I will have absolutely no problem recommending the show to someone who wants an adventure like Avatar as it's shaping up nicely to follow in avatar's footsteps.

for what avatar did to asian culture steven universe is doing with Gemstones and minerals lol.

edit: note I said that it could pass avatar in lore and seriousness of story, it's still quite up in the air if the overall quality of the story will be better (avatar has the edge here but SU still has tons of great story going on now) when all is said in done I still fully expect avatar to keep the crown of best overall american kids show with a focus on story, but that is only because at this point I am expecting SU to stick around for 5-6 more years which will likely lead to it jumping onto a different less quality story line than it currently is. Kind of like what Avatar has been doing with the comic lines. The comics are enjoyable, but not great. Season 6 of SU will likely be like that, enjoyable but not as great as the first few seasons.

that being said the creator has obviously spent a lot of time and love crafting this story/characters/universe and could have solid plans for many years as she is a very talented person (first female to be the lead creator of a show on CN, and she isn't even 30) and a decent musician.

-Mazer wrote:
Korra...eh not so much imo. Lost interest during season 2, but the Airbender...Hells to the Yes.

Plus the comic books are amazing as well

LegendX48 wrote:I enjoyed season 2 of Korra : |

also, season 3 and 4 have tons of great action and a hell of a cool character/villain.

-Mazer wrote:Thoughts on Korra being Bi-sexual?

-Mazer wrote:I like the idea Koenig. I'll offer better input the moment I have break

zulux21 wrote:

-Mazer wrote:Thoughts on Korra being Bi-sexual?

Asami was a far better match for her than either  of the guys so uh..

you go girl?

beyond that I am happy that they pushed nick to its limits going that route as there is no reason why two girls or two guys shouldn't be able to be in a relationship if it's between two consenting adults.

It makes me happy they are doing that in SU as well.

Koenig wrote:
I hated it, in part due to the fact that there was no build up to it at all.  Character development in general took several steps backwards in Korra IMO.

Koenig wrote:I hated it, in part due to the fact that there was no build up to it at all.  Character development in general took several steps backwards in Korra IMO.

zulux21 wrote:I could get that.
at the same time I was so happy that they weren't trying to for a mako korra thing again that I can overlook it. mako korra was horrible.